Tribol 60 Information (Prohormones)
Serving Size - 1 capsule
Servings per Container - 120
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-dien-17-one - 35mg (Max LMG)
2a 17a dimethyl etiocholan 3 one 17b-ol - 20mg (Superdrol)
17beta-hydroxy 2alpha, 17beta-dimethyl 5alpha-andostran 3-on-azine 5mg (Dymethazine)
Bottle recommended use
Take 2 capsules per day, one in the morning and the other 30-45 minutes prior to your workout.
40mg Superdrol a day? I've read logs of people making gains using 10 a day. I think 40 is way too much.
Also, consider the different compounds/doses I've Tribol 60 as containing:
From one source:
2a,17a-dimethyl-etiocholan-3-one-17b-ol 20 mg
17beta-hydroxy 2alpha, 17beta-dimethyl-5alpha-andostran 3-one-azine 5mg
2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-2-one - 20mg
17a-methyl-5a-androstan-2-ene-17b-ol - 10mg
Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione - 35mg
2a, 17a-Dimenthyl-17B-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one (20mg)
2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-andro-stan-17b-ol (5mg)
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2, 5 (10)-dien-17-one (35mg)
aaaaand I'm tired of searching.
Are there multiple versions of this out there? I'm not seeing it in stock in the retailers, although saw some on eBay.
With the confusion about exactly what's in it, and how much, plus that it seems to be mixing some pretty powerful and liver toxic stuff at what appears to be a high dose, I suggest being careful with this one. Get a look at the bottle to confirm the ingredients.
And what are you doing checking out this pre-made stack anyway? You know how I feel about most pre-made stacks....
Tribol 60 Ingredients
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one (Max LMG)Trade names include Max LMG, Tren, Trena, AKA Methoxygonadiene
Common dosage: 60-120mg daily
Common cycle length: 4-6 weeks
Half-Life:Long (48-72 hours)
Not a 17aa steroid so liver toxicity is not as harsh as with 17aa steorids, however the ethyl group on C-18 may make it slightly more toxic than a non-ethylated steroid (while increasing its oral bio-availability). Max LMG is progestin designed to give solid gains in muscle mass with low water retention. The progestational activity of methoxygonadiene (once it is converted to its active metabolites) is considered to be slightly stronger than nandrolone. This means muscle building with Max LMG in your cycle gives you higher quality hardening effects. Since it acts as anti-progesterone, there are decreased negative effects of extra estrogen and increased libido.
It is legal because it is a progestin, like trenbolone, nandrolone, methyltrienolone and Methyl-Dien. As a progestin, Max LMG is structurally related to the pill RU-486 and as such acts as an "anti-progesterone". This results in decreased estrogen-like effects and an increase in libido.
Research suggests that Max LMG has a half-life of about 6 hours, though it appears that it is closer to 10 hours based upon plasma levels maintained in test subjects. It is not a 17-alkylated analog and has a low potential for liver toxicity.
Most users report good results at a dosage of 75mg a day.
Some comments from users:
"As stated, appears to be an all out bulker. Great for size and strength, but notorious for bloat and the potential for gyno. I've also read that it kills libido pretty quickly. Some of the makers claimed that the libido would remain fine if one didn't use too large of daily doses though. I remember seeing people getting decent gains from 40mg - 50mg (depending on the product). It looks like most guys go up to 75mg though."
"Would be my favorite if it didn't make my nips start burning by the end of week two. Rapid weight gain on it plus the fact its not methyl are pluses. Just keep in mind i've seen many complain about it easily aggrevating gyno."
In the stomach acid, the C-3 methoxy group is rapidly cleaved off and the double bond on the A ring at C-2 is lost. At this point, a 3-oxo is formed and a metabolite known as 13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is created, which is chemically similar to norbolethone, and probably where this compound gets most of its effects.
13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is about equal to testosterone in anabolic potency, yet less androgenic. This would make this compound fairly light on the hairline with minimal chance of acne or other androgenic side-effects.
With low androgenic activity, this compound may negatively affect the libido and erectile function. The lack of androgenic potency and progestational effects make this compound likely to cause gyno symptoms. Users could stack this compound with testosterone or one of its non-aromatizing metabolites to preserve DHT levels and possibly prevent these side-effects.
Users experience rapid weight gain from this compound partly due to subcutaneous water retention from the progestational activity. Therefore the overall gains from this compound may lead to a bloated appearance. Because of the progestational effects, users should avoid stacking this compound with other gyno aggravating compounds. Max LMG can aromatize to estrogen in small amounts, however not to any significant degree, therefore an aromatase inhibitor would provide little protection against this compound's side-effects.
Max LMG immediately converts in the stomach into a 13b alkylated compound (13b ethyl nor androstenedione) and then makes it all the way to the liver because it is ethylated to survive first pass, and is converted into 13b ethyl nor testosterone, a steroid similar to norbolethone aka the clear.
17b-hydroxy-2a,17b-dimethyl-5a-androstan-3-one-azine (Dymethazine)Trade Name: Dymethazine
Dymethazine (aka mebolazine) was brought to market by iForce Nutrition in 2009, however, despite Dymethazine being 'legal' it was largely taken off the market due to recent FDA activities. Despite this, clones of the original Dymethazine have already been brought to the market. Dymethazine and DZine are interchangeable featuring the same compound (2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3-one-azine)
Dymethazine is an azine, two superdrol molecules attached to each other by a nitrogen atom. Stomach acid separates the two superdrol molecules from each other, after which they make their way to the androgen receptors. Dymethazine is also known as mebalozine.
Dymethazine is nearly identical to Superdrol, except it's two (as opposed to one) superdrol molecules attached to each other. Your body's stomach acid separates these two molecules prior to absorption, so it becomes a single molecule with two potential pathways. Despite this difference, Superdrol remains the more powerful compound.
The one advantage Dymethazine has over Superdrol is the lower likelihood/greater managability of side effects. Dymethazine is an incredibly potent compound and carries the same risks as any other powerful anabolic steroid or pro-hormone.
In a study, patients were administered Dymethazine for 45+ days. Liver values did not change for 50% of patients, while the other 50% noticed only modest to moderate increases in liver values. So, while Dymethazine can increase liver values, it is not as harsh as the current strong methyls currently available.
Dymethazine features 0% ability to aromatize and expresses an extremely weak androgenic activity. This means Dymethazine will produce gain with little to no liver impact and will cause no estrogen related side effects.
2a-17a-di-methyl-etiocholan-3-one,17b-ol (Superdrol)Yet another nomenclature for Superdrol.
2a,17a-di-methyl-etiocholan-3-one,17b-ol and 2a,17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one are the same exact compounds written differently. They are both methylated at the 2a and 17a positions, both have a hydroxyl (alcohol, -OH) group at the 17b potion, and a ketone at position three. Just one attempts to use the term etiocholan, which isn't used too often.
A derivative of Drostanolon which is the 2-methylated form of DHT, so it has typically been used for reducing body-fat and water retention, while increasing muscle hardness and density. There should be no estrogen conversion with this compound, because it's 5a-reduced and A-ring alkylated on top of that. Also, the parent compound is used exclusively as an anti-neoplastic for metastatic breast cancer, so it's a strong anti-e with mild diuretic effects.
Has an extremely favorable Q (anabolic/androgenic) ratio. Q ratio = 20 (m-1-t is between 5-16, depending on assay). 20% as androgenic as 17a-MT oral (the reference standard); (m-1-t is 100-220% as androgenic as 17a-MT, for comparison). Superdrol is 400-800% as anabolic as the reference standard (17a-MT); (m-1-t is 910-1600% comparatively). The low androgenic profile of Superdrol will keep (androgenic) side-effects to a minimum.
Some users complain of delayed gyno up to 6 months after a good PCT. It's effective at 20mg, and usually provides very dry lean mass gains. Strength gains are moderate, but not usually maintainable post cycle. A very harsh compound, and should not be taken lightly. A good PCT and support supplement regime is essential.
estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione (Tren)Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione is a powerful pro-steroid chemically similar to the anabolic agent Trenbolone.
Tren is a popular over-the-counter anabolic steroid/pro-hormone. Tren as a nomenclature can be confusing, as there are four different compounds commonly referred to as Tren:
Tren is a very strong non-methylated compound and can negatively impact blood pressure, lipid values, cholesterol levels and will put strain on the endocrine system. One downside of Tren is the potential of progestin induced gyno or flare ups of existing gyno. It's recommended to run P-5-P on cycle at the bottle recommended dosage. User who experience flare-ups should increase the dosage into the 150-250mg range.
When in the body, estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione completes the conversion to Trenbolone. Trenbolone is a potent anabolic steroid, which binds to specific receptors present in reproductive tissue, muscle and fat. Trenbolone reduces nitrogen excretion from tissue breakdown (anti-catabolic). The ratio of anabolic (muscle building) effects to androgenic (virilizing) effects is a common rating of anabolic steroids. Trenbolone has a high anabolic ratio. The anabolic ratio of Testosterone is 100, but the Trenbolone's ratio is 500.