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4-Chloro-17a-Methyl-andro-4ene-3,17b-diol 25mg (Promagnon)
2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstane-17b-ol-3-one 10mg (Superdrol)
13-ethyl-3-methox-gona-2,5 (10)-diene-17-one 10mg (Max LMG)
Milk Thistle 200mg
NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine) 100mg
ALA (alpha lipoic acid) 100mg
I can't seem to find a bottle recommended dosage here, although I would bet it would be 1-2 caps per day evenly spaced. At 2 a day, the dosages for the P-Mag and Super are are adequate, but the Max LMG is WAY underdosed, to the point of why bother? Running a single supp cycle of Max LMG and you should be in the 60 - 120mg a day range.
Getting the right levels for each compound seems to be the biggest problem I see with these pre-made stacks.
Support supps are good, I suppose, but I like to keep them seperate. Still, the three added here all have a good reputation for doing the job of keeping your liver function at optimal.
If this was onyl Promag and Max, you might be able to get away with an OTC PCT, but Superdrol can be harsh. You'll probably want pharmacy strength OCT support here.
If you're going to do this, you might look at a 4 week cycle, starting at 2 tabs a day for the first 2 weeks, then 3 for weeks three and four. If you're hardcore and 250+, you might be OK to go to 4 caps a day for week four, but 40mg of Superdrol can be hard on you.
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one (Max LMG)Trade names include Max LMG, Tren, Trena, AKA Methoxygonadiene
Common dosage: 60-120mg daily
Common cycle length: 4-6 weeks
Half-Life:Long (48-72 hours)
Not a 17aa steroid so liver toxicity is not as harsh as with 17aa steorids, however the ethyl group on C-18 may make it slightly more toxic than a non-ethylated steroid (while increasing its oral bio-availability). Max LMG is progestin designed to give solid gains in muscle mass with low water retention. The progestational activity of methoxygonadiene (once it is converted to its active metabolites) is considered to be slightly stronger than nandrolone. This means muscle building with Max LMG in your cycle gives you higher quality hardening effects. Since it acts as anti-progesterone, there are decreased negative effects of extra estrogen and increased libido.
It is legal because it is a progestin, like trenbolone, nandrolone, methyltrienolone and Methyl-Dien. As a progestin, Max LMG is structurally related to the pill RU-486 and as such acts as an "anti-progesterone". This results in decreased estrogen-like effects and an increase in libido.
Research suggests that Max LMG has a half-life of about 6 hours, though it appears that it is closer to 10 hours based upon plasma levels maintained in test subjects. It is not a 17-alkylated analog and has a low potential for liver toxicity.
Most users report good results at a dosage of 75mg a day.
Some comments from users:
"As stated, appears to be an all out bulker. Great for size and strength, but notorious for bloat and the potential for gyno. I've also read that it kills libido pretty quickly. Some of the makers claimed that the libido would remain fine if one didn't use too large of daily doses though. I remember seeing people getting decent gains from 40mg - 50mg (depending on the product). It looks like most guys go up to 75mg though."
"Would be my favorite if it didn't make my nips start burning by the end of week two. Rapid weight gain on it plus the fact its not methyl are pluses. Just keep in mind i've seen many complain about it easily aggrevating gyno."
In the stomach acid, the C-3 methoxy group is rapidly cleaved off and the double bond on the A ring at C-2 is lost. At this point, a 3-oxo is formed and a metabolite known as 13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is created, which is chemically similar to norbolethone, and probably where this compound gets most of its effects.
13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is about equal to testosterone in anabolic potency, yet less androgenic. This would make this compound fairly light on the hairline with minimal chance of acne or other androgenic side-effects.
With low androgenic activity, this compound may negatively affect the libido and erectile function. The lack of androgenic potency and progestational effects make this compound likely to cause gyno symptoms. Users could stack this compound with testosterone or one of its non-aromatizing metabolites to preserve DHT levels and possibly prevent these side-effects.
Users experience rapid weight gain from this compound partly due to subcutaneous water retention from the progestational activity. Therefore the overall gains from this compound may lead to a bloated appearance. Because of the progestational effects, users should avoid stacking this compound with other gyno aggravating compounds. Max LMG can aromatize to estrogen in small amounts, however not to any significant degree, therefore an aromatase inhibitor would provide little protection against this compound's side-effects.
Max LMG immediately converts in the stomach into a 13b alkylated compound (13b ethyl nor androstenedione) and then makes it all the way to the liver because it is ethylated to survive first pass, and is converted into 13b ethyl nor testosterone, a steroid similar to norbolethone aka the clear.
Info links for 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one (Max LMG)
- Learn more about Max LMG
2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol (Superdrol)Alternate nomenclature: 2a-17a di-methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol
Trade name: Superdrol
Superdrol is a powerful anabolic designer steroid brought to market in 2005, however due pressure by the FDA, the original Superdrol was pulled and is no longer available. Like many other compounds, it has been made available again through the production of clones such as M-Drol (Competetive Edge Labs) and Methadrol (iForce Nutrition).
These clones are the most popular and common superdrol clones. They're both the same active compound (2a, 17a Dimethyl Etiocholan 3-One, 17b-Ol). Since the original Superdrol is not available, going with a clone is the only option, however quality clones will produce identical results to the original Superdrol.
Superdrol is perhaps the most powerful compound available on the legal market, as well as one of the most toxic. Superdrol is only for advanced users that previous experience with prohormone cycles and several years of proper lifting and dieting.
There are several products based on the Supderdrol compound that have slight variations that may result in better/lesser gains and or a reduced/increased risk of side effects.
Info links for 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol (Superdrol)
- Superdrol? or somthing else...
- 2a; 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol .....Superdrol or not??
- What is 2a, 17a-methyl-5a-androst-3-one, 17b-ol
- Superdrol (Methasteron) chemical composition???
- Unreal's Guide to Superdrol
- Superdrol For Dummies
- The Superdrol/M-Drol Informative Bible
- Learn more about superdrol
- Metabolic studies with promagnon, methylclostebol and methasterone in the uPA+/+-SCID chimeric mice
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3b,17b-diol (Promagnon)Also sold as Promag, P-Mag
Common Dosage: 50 - 100mg daily
Common Cycle Length: 4-6 Weeks.
Half-Life: 12 hours
Another methylated prohormone, this one is often compared to halodrol, though there is an important structural difference. P-mag lacks the C1-2 double bond common to boldenone derivatives like h-drol, boldione, dbol and M1,4ADD, having only a C4-5 (delta-4) double bond which makes it a closer structural relative of testosterone and methyl testosterone.
The difference becomes apparent when we look at what each one becomes in vivo: where some h-drol is metabolised via 3b-HSD to oral turinabol, p-mag becomes methylated clostebol. A 4-chloro group is common to both drugs, which will make both poor substrates for the aromatase cytochrome P-450 enzyme.
Clostebol is a synthetic anabolic androgenic steroid. Clostebol is the 4-chloro derivative of the natural hormone testosterone. It is a weak anabolic steroid used often by Germans during their Olympic glory days.
Promagnon users report size gains, with a lack of additional weight added in the last couple of weeks. Libido tends to remain positive, likely due to the more androgenic qualities of the drug.
The aforementioned positive attributes and the possibility of short cycle durations would make this an excellent choice for a first cycle, though as with any methyl it is a good idea to educate yourself about the possibilities of hepatic impairment
Promag is a versatile compound that will produce lean muscular gains and is suitable for cutting or bulking, however is typically most used when bulking Promag remains a popular due to minimal side effects and consistent dry gains that are relatively easy to maintain post cycle.
Info links for 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-ene-3b,17b-diol (Promagnon)
Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA)Alpha-lipoic acid (ALA) is an antioxidant made by the body and is found in every cell, where it helps turn glucose into energy. Unlike other antioxidants, which work only in water (such as vitamin C) or fatty tissues (such as vitamin E), ALA is both fat and water soluble.
In the cells of the body, ALA is converted into dihydrolipoic acid. ALA is not the same as alpha linolenic acid, which is an omega-3 fatty acid that may help heart health.
ALA has been proposed as a treatment for alcohol-related liver disease, but so far there is no evidence that it works. ALA has been administered by IV along with silymarin (milk thistle) to treat people who have eaten the poisonous mushroom Amanita, which causes liver damage.
Info links for Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA)
- Possible Interactions with: Alpha-Lipoic Acid
- Lipoic Acid
- The Role of Lipoic Acid in Inflammation and Atherosclerosis
- A relatively unknown antioxidant, alpha-lipoic acid
Milk Thistle (SILYMARIN)The milk thistle is a thistle of the genus Silybum Adans., a flowering plant of the daisy family (Asteraceae). They are native to the Mediterranean regions of Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. The name "milk thistle" derives from two features of the leaves: they are mottled with splashes of white and they contain a milky sap.
The seeds of the milk thistle have been used for 2000 years to treat chronic liver disease and protect the liver against toxins. Increasing research is being undertaken on the physiological effects, therapeutic properties and possible medical uses of milk thistle.
Research into the biological activity of silymarin and its possible medical uses has been conducted in many countries since the 1970s. Milk thistle has been reported to have protective effects on the liver and to greatly improve its function. It is typically used to treat liver cirrhosis, chronic hepatitis (liver inflammation), toxin-induced liver damage, and gallbladder disorders.
Reviews of the literature covering clinical studies of silymarin vary. A review using only studies with both double-blind and placebo protocols concluded that milk thistle and its derivatives "does not seem to significantly influence the course of patients with alcoholic and/or hepatitis B or C liver diseases".
A different review of the literature performed for the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services found that while there is strong evidence of legitimate medical benefits, the studies done to date are of uneven design and quality that no firm conclusions about degrees of effectiveness for specific conditions or appropriate dosage can yet be made.
A review of studies of silymarin and liver disease which are available on the web shows an interesting pattern in that studies which tested low dosages of silymarin concluded that silymarin was ineffective, while studies which used significantly larger doses concluded that silymarin was biologically active and had therapeutic effects.
Beside benefits for liver disease, other unproven treatment claims include:
Used as a post (oral steroid) cycle therapy for body builders and/or in the hopes of reducing or eliminating liver damage
Lowering cholesterol levels
Reducing insulin resistance in people with type 2 diabetes who also have cirrhosis
Reducing the growth of cancer cells in breast, cervical, and prostate cancers.
Used in many products claiming to reduce the effects of a hangover
Used by individuals withdrawing from opiates, especially during the Acute Withdrawal Stage.
Reducing liver damaging effects of chemotherapeutic drugs
Clinical study has shown that liver function tests can be improved in active hepatitis patients.
Info links for Milk Thistle (SILYMARIN)
N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)Acetylcysteine, also known as N-acetylcysteine or N-acetyl-L-cysteine (abbreviated NAC), is a pharmaceutical drug and nutritional supplement used primarily as a mucolytic agent and in the management of paracetamol (acetaminophen) overdose. Other uses include sulfate repletion in conditions, such as autism, where cysteine and related sulfur amino acids may be depleted.
Cysteine is an amino acid that can be found throughout the body. N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), a modified form of cysteine, has been shown to increase levels of the antioxidant glutathione. Antioxidants such as glutathione can reduce cell damage, speed recovery from injury and aid muscle growth.
NAC is a popular supplement with a wide variety of uses. Because it reduces muscle damage and strengthens the immune system, NAC is used by endurance athletes such as long-distance runners, cyclists and triathletes. Many athletes include NAC in their diet when they are in the early stages of recovering from an injury.
The anabolic effect of NAC on muscle tissue also makes it popular with athletes wanting to gain lean muscle size and strength, including body builders, rugby players, and sprinters.
Info links for N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC)
- N - ACETYL CYSTEINE
- New Therapeutic Properties Of N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine Discovered
- N-Acetyl-l-Cysteine Affects Growth, Extracellular Polysaccharide Production
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