Mutant Plexx Information (Prohormones)
Servings per Container
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol (Halodrol) - 15mg
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-dien-17-one (Max LMG) - 15mg
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol (Epistane) - 6mg
2,17a-dimethyl-5a-androsta-1-en-17b-ol-3-one (Methylstenbolone) - 3mg
Gelatin (capsule), maltodextrin, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide
Take 1 capsule in the morning, take 1 capsule early afternoon, and 1 capsule in the evening. For optimal results, space dosages times approximately 5 hours apart. DO NOT exceed more than 3 capsules in any 24 hour period.
So.... Halovar (Halodrol clone), Max LMG, Epistane and Methylstenbolone all rolled into one.
Let's look at each of these as a standalone:
Low - 50mg daily
Average - 75mg daily
High - 125mg daily
Recommended Cycle length: 5-6 weeks
Low - 50mg daily
Average - 75mg daily
High - 125mg daily
Recommended Cycle length: 6 weeks
Low - 30mg daily
Average - 40mg daily
High - 60mg daily
Recommended Cycle length: 4-6 weeks
Low - 4mg daily
Average - 8-12mg daily
High - 16mg daily
Recommended Cycle length: 3-4 weeks
Taking the standalone info above and rolling it into the Mutant Plexx recommended usage, we get:
Halodrol - 45mg
Max LMG - 45mg
Epistane - 18mg
Methylstenbolone - 9mg
As far as standalone dosages go, these levels are pretty much right in line with the averages, except for the Epistane, which is considerably under even the level of a low daily dose.
So this brings up a question I've never been able to find a good answer too when it come to combining multiple prohormone compounds: does the whole equal more than the sum of the parts?
By that I mean (as an example) let's say you're doing a 2 compound stack, but each compound is under the recommended standalone dose. Let's use Halo and Max LMG for our example.
Standalone for each is an average 50mg a day. But what happens is you take 35mg a day of each? Do they combine somehow to make 50mg of worth of effect? Would it be line take each one by itself as a standalone? Or, since each os below what's considered to be ab effective dose, would you see no effect?
If you have an answer to this one, please post it in the comments section below.
Now, back to Mutant Plexx. Methylstenbolone is strong stuff. Personally, I wouldn't stack it with another methyl, much less two. An as for the Epistane, in consideration of the question I posed above, why only 18mg?
I'm not a stack fan, you know that, but I've read plenty of log of guys stacking Halo and Max LMG, or Epi and Max LMG and seeing excellent results. Heck, I've read logs of guys running each Max LMG, Halo, or Epi as a standalone and seeing great results.
That being the case, this seems a overkill to me.
Mutant Plexx Ingredients
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one (Max LMG)Trade names include Max LMG, Tren, Trena, AKA Methoxygonadiene
Common dosage: 60-120mg daily
Common cycle length: 4-6 weeks
Half-Life:Long (48-72 hours)
Not a 17aa steroid so liver toxicity is not as harsh as with 17aa steorids, however the ethyl group on C-18 may make it slightly more toxic than a non-ethylated steroid (while increasing its oral bio-availability). Max LMG is progestin designed to give solid gains in muscle mass with low water retention. The progestational activity of methoxygonadiene (once it is converted to its active metabolites) is considered to be slightly stronger than nandrolone. This means muscle building with Max LMG in your cycle gives you higher quality hardening effects. Since it acts as anti-progesterone, there are decreased negative effects of extra estrogen and increased libido.
It is legal because it is a progestin, like trenbolone, nandrolone, methyltrienolone and Methyl-Dien. As a progestin, Max LMG is structurally related to the pill RU-486 and as such acts as an "anti-progesterone". This results in decreased estrogen-like effects and an increase in libido.
Research suggests that Max LMG has a half-life of about 6 hours, though it appears that it is closer to 10 hours based upon plasma levels maintained in test subjects. It is not a 17-alkylated analog and has a low potential for liver toxicity.
Most users report good results at a dosage of 75mg a day.
Some comments from users:
"As stated, appears to be an all out bulker. Great for size and strength, but notorious for bloat and the potential for gyno. I've also read that it kills libido pretty quickly. Some of the makers claimed that the libido would remain fine if one didn't use too large of daily doses though. I remember seeing people getting decent gains from 40mg - 50mg (depending on the product). It looks like most guys go up to 75mg though."
"Would be my favorite if it didn't make my nips start burning by the end of week two. Rapid weight gain on it plus the fact its not methyl are pluses. Just keep in mind i've seen many complain about it easily aggrevating gyno."
In the stomach acid, the C-3 methoxy group is rapidly cleaved off and the double bond on the A ring at C-2 is lost. At this point, a 3-oxo is formed and a metabolite known as 13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is created, which is chemically similar to norbolethone, and probably where this compound gets most of its effects.
13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is about equal to testosterone in anabolic potency, yet less androgenic. This would make this compound fairly light on the hairline with minimal chance of acne or other androgenic side-effects.
With low androgenic activity, this compound may negatively affect the libido and erectile function. The lack of androgenic potency and progestational effects make this compound likely to cause gyno symptoms. Users could stack this compound with testosterone or one of its non-aromatizing metabolites to preserve DHT levels and possibly prevent these side-effects.
Users experience rapid weight gain from this compound partly due to subcutaneous water retention from the progestational activity. Therefore the overall gains from this compound may lead to a bloated appearance. Because of the progestational effects, users should avoid stacking this compound with other gyno aggravating compounds. Max LMG can aromatize to estrogen in small amounts, however not to any significant degree, therefore an aromatase inhibitor would provide little protection against this compound's side-effects.
Max LMG immediately converts in the stomach into a 13b alkylated compound (13b ethyl nor androstenedione) and then makes it all the way to the liver because it is ethylated to survive first pass, and is converted into 13b ethyl nor testosterone, a steroid similar to norbolethone aka the clear.
2,17a-methyl-5a-androsta-1-en-17b-ol-3-one (Methylstenbolone)An active and orally-bioavailable compound engineered to resist metabolic breakdown on both the A and D rings, precisely where other active hormonal molecules typically degrade into estrogenic or biologically-inactive metabolites.
Claims: Sperior pharmacokinetic profile and exceptional potency; does not aromatize into any estrogenic compound and has no affinity for the progesterone receptor, so estrogen and progesterone receptor mediated side effects are of no concern.
AKA methyl stenbolone, methyl sten, 17a-methyl-stenbolone, m-sten, ultradrol
In 1966, researchers at Searle Laboratories set about methodically testing the myotrophic (anabolic) and androgenic effects of a series of A-ring modified androstane derivatives. Compounds explored include
Methyl-1-testosterone (M1T), desoxymethyltestosterone (phera), 17a-methyl-1-androstenediol (Alpha One), and a variety of other 1- and 2-dehydro compounds were explored for activity.
The researchers announced that "Even the least active compound in Table 6 possessed a higher relative myotrophic potency than previously has been obtained with several clinically interesting compounds which have been studied under identical conditions, i.e. oxymetholone, oxandrolone, stanozolol, and methandrostenolone." (anadrol, anavar, winstrol, and dianabol).
Props to henryv, read the rest of his write-up at Total Flex Blog
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol (Havoc/Epistane)Also written as: 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-adrostan
Trade names include Havoc/Epistane
Common Dosages: 30mg to 40mg daily
Common Cycle Length: 4-5 Weeks
Half-Life: Average (6-8 hours)
A designer steroid and legal alternative to anabolic and androgenic steroids.
Epistane is a methylated version of the controlled substance Epitiostanol (2±,3±-Epithio-5±-androstan-17²-ol), created in the 1960's and used as a treatment for breast cancer. Chemists added a methyl group to the compound to create the product known as Epistane. Epistane is a sulfur containing steroid which is known to have strong and long lasting anti-estrogenic activity as well as weak androgenic and mytropic activities.
Since it is anti-estrogenic, you can expect very dry gains from this compound. Epistane has low androgenic to anabolic activity, meaning it is much more anabolic then androgenic. Even though users will see dry gains on Epistane it does not mean that it would be any insufficient for a bulking cycle.
Side effects are typically minimal to non existent.
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol (Halovar)A clone of Halodrol (4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3b,17b-diol)
Halodrol is a 17aa steroid that converts to the steroid oral Turinabol after interaction with 3b-HSD at an estimated rate of about 5%. Because of this low conversion, doses must be higher than other 17aa pro-steroids. However, it is suspected that Halodrol has decent potency without conversion as good results are seen despite the relatively low conversion to Turinabol. Halodrol appears to be about as potent as testosterone, and significantly less androgenic.
Because of the 4-chloro group, halodrol has no progestational effects, it cannot interact with the aromatase enzyme, and it produces inactive 4-chloro-DHT metabolites. This makes androgenic side-effects such as hair loss, high blood pressure, acne and prostate enlargement less likely.
The lack of androgenic potency might be expected to create problems with gyno, however the low SHBG binding affinity has minimal interference with SHBG levels and/or freely circuiting estrogen and testosterone. It does not appear that halodrol has a significant gyno risk.
Because halodrol must be used at such a high dose to see noticeable effects, liver toxicity may become an issue. Therefore it is recommended to use a liver protecting supplement before and during halodrol cycles.
Gains from Halodrol generally take a few weeks to notice, but users can expect solid increases in strength, lean muscle mass, improved vascularity and minimal water retention. This allows some of the gains to be kept after the cycle if good diet and training are continued. Quick dramatic gains in size and strength are not generally noticed with Halodrol.
H-Drol is one of the most popular and proven compounds on the market and is considered good for beginners due to it's reputation for minimal side effects and dry gains that are relatively easy to maintain after the cycle is complete.
GelatinGelatin is a tasteless substance created from collagen found in animal skin and bones. It is used to thicken liquid in processed foods as well as having applications in photography, cosmetics, and pharmaceuticals. Gelatin is found in many forms of candy, marshmallows, Jell-O, and some types of yogurt. Gelatin can be bought in many grocery stores for use in home cooking. In the vast majority of cases, gelatin is not harmful to the consumer.
Magnesium StearateMagnesium stearate is often used as a diluent in the manufacture of medical tablets, capsules and powders. In this regard, the substance is also useful, because it has lubricating properties, preventing ingredients from sticking to manufacturing equipment during the compression of chemical powders into solid tablets.
Magnesium stearate is the most commonly used lubricant for tablets. Studies have shown that magnesium stearate may affect the release time of the active ingredients in tablets, but not that it reduces the over-all bioavailability of those ingredients.
MaltodextrinMaltodextrin is a polysaccharide that is used as a food additive. It is produced from starch by partial hydrolysis and is usually found as a creamy-white hygroscopic spraydried powder. Maltodextrin is easily digestible, being absorbed as rapidly as glucose, and might be either moderately sweet or almost flavorless. It is commonly used for the production of natural sodas and candy.
Silicon Dioxide (Silica)The chemical compound silicon dioxide, also known as silica, is an oxide of silicon. Silica is most commonly found in nature as sand or quartz.
Silica is common additive in the production of foods, where it is used primarily as a flow agent in powdered foods, or to absorb water in hygroscopic applications. It is the primary component of diatomaceous earth which has many uses ranging from filtration to insect control. It is also the primary component of rice husk ash which is used, for example, in filtration and cement manufacturing.