MethoxyVol Information (Prohormones)
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 90
Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione - 27.5mg
13 ethyle 3 methoxy gona - 25mg
3 caps a day. Doesn't give advice on cycle length, ramping etc....
This is Max LMG with an aromatase inhibitor (AI). Aromatase is the enzyme which synthesizes estrogen. AIs are taken to either block the production of estrogen or block the action of estrogen on receptors.
I'm not sure why the truncated the nomenclature for Max LMG, but I guess that's neither here nor there.
Max LMG isn't methylated, so risk of liver toxicity is much lower than with a methyl. It's considered to be a milder "wet" bulker. It's seldom used solo and is often part of a bulking stack with a more potent methylated compound.
Despite being relatively mild, some users report a moerate level of side effects. It's a progestin which means prolactin sides (like gyno, bloating, hair loss, etc) can be an issue, and also means you shouldn't stack it with other progestins. So I think that's why they stuck it with an AI in an effort to minimize the risk of these type of side effects.
As far as dosing, 3 a day ends up being 75mg daily. Now according to TunedSports, the average dose is 100mg a day, with advanced users going up to 150mg. So 3 a day mught be a bit low. Maybe not for first-timers though.
Cycles range from 4-7 weeks, with 6 weeks being very common.
An over-the-counter PCT is possible with LMG if it's run by itself. Still, a perscription strength PCT is always the best.
13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)diene-17-one (Max LMG)Trade names include Max LMG, Tren, Trena, AKA Methoxygonadiene
Common dosage: 60-120mg daily
Common cycle length: 4-6 weeks
Half-Life:Long (48-72 hours)
Not a 17aa steroid so liver toxicity is not as harsh as with 17aa steorids, however the ethyl group on C-18 may make it slightly more toxic than a non-ethylated steroid (while increasing its oral bio-availability). Max LMG is progestin designed to give solid gains in muscle mass with low water retention. The progestational activity of methoxygonadiene (once it is converted to its active metabolites) is considered to be slightly stronger than nandrolone. This means muscle building with Max LMG in your cycle gives you higher quality hardening effects. Since it acts as anti-progesterone, there are decreased negative effects of extra estrogen and increased libido.
It is legal because it is a progestin, like trenbolone, nandrolone, methyltrienolone and Methyl-Dien. As a progestin, Max LMG is structurally related to the pill RU-486 and as such acts as an "anti-progesterone". This results in decreased estrogen-like effects and an increase in libido.
Research suggests that Max LMG has a half-life of about 6 hours, though it appears that it is closer to 10 hours based upon plasma levels maintained in test subjects. It is not a 17-alkylated analog and has a low potential for liver toxicity.
Most users report good results at a dosage of 75mg a day.
Some comments from users:
"As stated, appears to be an all out bulker. Great for size and strength, but notorious for bloat and the potential for gyno. I've also read that it kills libido pretty quickly. Some of the makers claimed that the libido would remain fine if one didn't use too large of daily doses though. I remember seeing people getting decent gains from 40mg - 50mg (depending on the product). It looks like most guys go up to 75mg though."
"Would be my favorite if it didn't make my nips start burning by the end of week two. Rapid weight gain on it plus the fact its not methyl are pluses. Just keep in mind i've seen many complain about it easily aggrevating gyno."
In the stomach acid, the C-3 methoxy group is rapidly cleaved off and the double bond on the A ring at C-2 is lost. At this point, a 3-oxo is formed and a metabolite known as 13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is created, which is chemically similar to norbolethone, and probably where this compound gets most of its effects.
13b-ethyl-nor-androstenedione is about equal to testosterone in anabolic potency, yet less androgenic. This would make this compound fairly light on the hairline with minimal chance of acne or other androgenic side-effects.
With low androgenic activity, this compound may negatively affect the libido and erectile function. The lack of androgenic potency and progestational effects make this compound likely to cause gyno symptoms. Users could stack this compound with testosterone or one of its non-aromatizing metabolites to preserve DHT levels and possibly prevent these side-effects.
Users experience rapid weight gain from this compound partly due to subcutaneous water retention from the progestational activity. Therefore the overall gains from this compound may lead to a bloated appearance. Because of the progestational effects, users should avoid stacking this compound with other gyno aggravating compounds. Max LMG can aromatize to estrogen in small amounts, however not to any significant degree, therefore an aromatase inhibitor would provide little protection against this compound's side-effects.
Max LMG immediately converts in the stomach into a 13b alkylated compound (13b ethyl nor androstenedione) and then makes it all the way to the liver because it is ethylated to survive first pass, and is converted into 13b ethyl nor testosterone, a steroid similar to norbolethone aka the clear.
Androsta-3,5-Diene-7,17-Dione (Arimistane)This is being marketed as an Armoatase Inhibitor (AI) and cortisol inhibitor.
It's a metabolite of 7-Keto DHEA. The usual dosage of 7 Keto is 100-200mg, but this is not 7 Keto, it is 7 Keto DHEA. They're different.
This from Patrick Arnold over at Prohormoe Forum.com:
"The whole family of 7-oxygenated dhea metabolites are fascinating compounds, for many reasons other than aromatase inhibition. The compound under discussion here is not a major metabolite though, and so its very unlikely you could acheive therapeutic drug levels in your body by ingesting any reasonable amount of 7-keto"
From all the research I did, it would appear as though the jury is still out on this as far as to whether or not it actually does what the marketers claim.
There were some in vitro (lab test) that show AI properties, but no studies yet as to whether or not it translates into real life.